Back pain & tight muscles

topic posted Fri, June 2, 2006 - 8:54 AM by  PoppyJam
I've been hooping for about 5 months now. Started out slow (3x/wk), but last month it's been nearly every day. Problem started after learning to knee hoop a couple of weeks ago and move the hoop from waist to chest. ie Lots of "grinding" knee and contorted torso movements - less then subtle until recently <g>. I had a 3 hour session one night where I gained a lot of ground, but I guess I overdid it. I rested 3 days and felt better, but every time I hoop now, the next morning I'm very stiff. Low back pain, radiating down left glut and leg (about a decade ago I did have a auto collision that herniated my disk, and it can be problematic after bending too much.) Knees have also been a little stiff in the morning. I noticed that a little yoga before and each day lessens the pain and saw a masseuse yesterday over this and she said that from legs on up, everything was very tight. I'm a little concerned that my hooping may get limited if I can't get past this. :-( That would bum me out seriously. I'm not sure if this is "injury" that I should lay off, or I need to stretch and strengthen more, or it'll go away as my movements get more subtle over time... Thoughts?
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PoppyJam
Washington
  • Re: Back pain & tight muscles

    Fri, June 2, 2006 - 9:18 AM
    Just my quick thoughts as I run off to work...

    I go to a chiropractor once a week (and I hoop 3-4 times a week, for a total of about 8-10 hours). It helps to keep your body in alignment.

    Deep tissue massage may be very helpful (and is on my To Do list).

    Stretch before AND after hooping (I always forget to stretch afterwards, and I'm usually a little on the stiff/sore side the next morning).

    Hope this helps,
    Chris
  • Re: Back pain & tight muscles

    Fri, June 2, 2006 - 11:59 AM
    I had the same pain for 2 years. It was chronic. To the point that one day I felt like I couldn't bend over because I didn't know if I'd get back up. I went to a masseuse for 5 months and had an hour and half deep tissue, and it would help a little, but only for about 24 hours. Then I decided to go see a Myopractor. Turned out my hip was rolled forward and my leg was a bit out of socket becaue of it. My siatic nerve was being pinched. So he popped it back into place, and the pain went away instantaneously. I had also had an auto collission and a really bad biking accident. I myopractor will work with your hips more than your spine. Your hips are what keep your eyes level...thats what your bodies primary function is in order to keep equilibrium. I highly recommend a myopractor over a chiropractor. I have only needed to see mine one time for my condition. I went to get a massage shortly after so that she could try to break up some of the damaged muscles and this time it only took her an hour to massage me. She was amazed at the "miracle" that he had worked on me. And the great news: 3 days later I was able to naturally do things with my hoop that I'd struggled and fought with for 5 months. Down to my knees and back up...without looking awkward...hardly having to twist my leg in at all...
    Chiropractors tend to concentrate on your perpindicular lines, when it makes more sense to work with the paralell lines...which is the base for your body's vertigo. A chiropractor couldn't help me. But I didn't realize how serious my injury was until the myopractor readjusted me. Its amazing to not have anymore lower back pain and to finally not have any pain in my gluts for the first time in 2 years.
    • Re: Back pain & tight muscles

      Fri, June 2, 2006 - 12:28 PM
      I find Pilates really helps in keeping the body balanced and core stretching is very important.
      • Stretch....

        Fri, June 2, 2006 - 3:05 PM
        >I noticed that a little yoga before and each day lessens the pain

        IMExperience, "too tight" doesn't go away on its own. If it were my body (and it has been), more stretching would be in order. Lots more, and maybe also look at a good yoga book or the book about Stretching and see what catches your eye. Maybe test a few new poses to see if they stretch something you didn't know you had. For me, it's almost always the piriformis that's at the root of the problem, but I can't tell you how much massage money I've spent before I was able to remember that for myself.

        Depending on your age and history, knee hooping may be something that has to go. I have to ask a surgeon about that next week, and I suspect you'll be able to hear him laughing where you are.
        • Re: Stretch....

          Fri, June 2, 2006 - 9:43 PM
          Thank you Daina and Karen. I am going to get into a yoga or pilates class. I have a yoga book, but haven't been disciplined enough to do it for more than 5 minutes at a time lately. Plus, I used to enjoy yoga class, so this should be good. Thank you all again for your caring that came through clearly.

          Peace,
          Poppy (Kirsten)
    • Re: Back pain & tight muscles

      Fri, June 2, 2006 - 9:22 PM
      Oh... this sounds just like what I'm experiencing Jasmyn. The masseuse I saw yesterday did say my hip was rolled forward and it didn't adjust during massage, but 3 ribs did. Jeesh what a mess <g>. I looked for a myopractor in Seattle and so far haven't turned up anything in the yellow pages, but will ask around. Thanks again, I'm so glad you found relief. :-)
  • Re: Back pain & tight muscles

    Fri, June 2, 2006 - 10:18 PM
    I'm curious. Do you hoop almost equally in both directions? I think hooping in both directions is essential to whole body conditioning. When I was only hooping to my dominant side, I created back problems for myself, back problems that involved having to see a chiropractor. When I began hooping in both directions, the problems stopped. I had created them myself and I fixed them myself. If you don't hoop equally in both directions, I encourage you to give it a try!
    • Re: Back pain & tight muscles

      Fri, June 2, 2006 - 11:34 PM
      I have experienced great success with chiropractors (I too have never heard of myropractors..)...

      After a nasty work activity that left me with a strained back and off work for a month and a half, seeing a physio did nothing for me. First adjustment by the chiro relived the pain immediately... went back for 4 more visits, a couple days apart, to continue to correct my alightment each time as the muscles that had tightened in the mis-aligned position were eased back to being flexible-yet-strong in the RIGHT place. Haven't had a major problem that required more than a single visit since... chiro followed by massage in the next day or two is all I do when my back goes out about once a year.

      X.
      • Shoes?

        Sat, June 3, 2006 - 6:04 AM
        Meant to add this too.

        What surface, what shoes? too much friction between your shoes and your dance surface is going to show up elsewhere in your body. Too hard of a dance surface may have an effect, too.

        the closer I get to 50 and the farther from 30, the more I have to pay attention to. And my body sends VERY TINY warning signs that get VERY UGLY fast if I ignore them.

        Good luck.
        • Re: Shoes?

          Sat, June 3, 2006 - 9:38 AM
          Mostly barefoot on carpet or grass. Yes, I could have posted to the 40 and over thread going on <g>... I have so much energy and desire to do things, but have found I'm a bit "fragile" in some regards, as I've found out through 2 years of snowboarding injuries, and now am dealing with the hooping. I intend to live life to its fullest, but know I need to take care of things. Sometimes it's just hard to get me to slow down long enough to do that though <g>. Ugh.
    • Re: Back pain & tight muscles

      Sat, June 3, 2006 - 9:30 AM
      Makes sense. I have been hooping in one direction... I'll try both.
      • Re: Back pain & tight muscles

        Sat, June 3, 2006 - 1:49 PM
        I think you'll be amazed how much it helps. When we hoop in only one direction, we twist our spine and knees and neck in that one direction - over and over and over - and we also only develop the muscles on that one side, which helps keep pulling the body in this one direction.

        When I first started hooping, I had injuries also - a pulled hamstring, bruises on the backs of my hands, hips, knees, ankles, my back and neck getting out of alignment. Along the way, I've developed skills and techniques that help me avoid the errors I was making that were causing these injuries.

        The back thing definitely came from hooping in one direction. In fact, it was affecting my knees too. I figured it out in a moment of non-dominant hooping when my whole spine reset itself - pop pop pop pop pop! That was two years ago and I haven't had a back or knee pain since I started hooping both directions. It was a head slapping moment.

        Bruising came from using hoops that were too heavy and also from drops. They were aggravated if I didn't let them heal. I learned to treat them with Arnica (topical) and let them heal and, in the moments of impatience where I just had to hoop anyway, to protect them by, say, stuffing a washcloth down the front of my jeans over a bruised hip bone. To protect my hands as I developed strength and skill, I used to wear batting gloves or weight lifting gloves, which offered some protection to the backs of my hands where there is very little fat to protect the blood vessels from bruising. I switched to a light 100 psi hoop. I'm learning leg stuff now and I wear jeans or multiple pairs of socks while I am getting better and toughening up. Also, as part of my learning/meditation process, I practice drills that improve my skills and conditioning and control.

        As for the pulled hamstring, what I learned is "Be careful on wet grass...on a hill...while hooping you ass off..."

        Anyway, all this is to say that injuries are often the result of inexperience as much as age and arming ourselves with information may ultimately help us prevent injuries in the first place.

        Happy healthy hooping everyone!
        • Re: Back pain & tight muscles

          Sun, June 4, 2006 - 12:00 PM
          Caroleena...thank you for this post. I've read here and there about changing currents and dabbled in clockwise hooping here and there, but since I joined the spiral tribe and started learning about the differences in the healing properties of spirals in different directions, I've been more interested in balancing out my chi with hooping in both directions. Now that I read your post, I realize it's not only a chi balancing but a muscle/physical balancing activity as well. I went to the park this morning and hooped clockwise for an hour! It feels SO strange but wonderful! I have been in a car accident and suffer from a few spinal injusries myself that are sometimes aggravated my hooping as well. I feel that my pop pop pop pop pop moment isn't far away judging by how it felt to do that this morning.
        • Re: Back pain & tight muscles

          Mon, June 5, 2006 - 11:10 AM
          Oh, everyone's posts have been great! :-) I've increased my chiro sessions (couldn't find a myopractor), and will continue massage once a week until I get past this bit of a mess. I've signed up for yoga to get this body flexing the way my spirit wants to take it! I was able to do so fairly inexpensively for unlimited sessions in a studio that seems holistic/spiritual, and is convenient for me to access. Happy about all this for sure. I'm also awaiting a call back from a Pilates studio, as I like the idea of the core-strengthening, and my boyfriend is also interested, so we're going to try this together. I'm also going to (maybe) skip a day inbetween long hooping sessions, which I used to do with running to avoid repetitive motion knee injuries. Last, but not least, I'm going to hoop in both directions - this makes total sense! You all are great. Thank you again.

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