Anyone have one of these? Seen them used in person? Have an idea where I could get one?
www.youtube.com/watch
I used to figure skate competitively... kinda reminds me of skating with a hoop...
I'd just really love to give it a try! I wonder how hard it is lol.
www.youtube.com/watch
I used to figure skate competitively... kinda reminds me of skating with a hoop...
I'd just really love to give it a try! I wonder how hard it is lol.
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Re: Huge Hoops of the metal variety
Sat, October 28, 2006 - 10:34 AMOh my god! I want one, too! That is WAY cool! I wish the video was more than 13 seconds long!
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Re: Huge Hoops of the metal variety
Sat, October 28, 2006 - 10:47 AMthat's sort of like a bastard child of a german wheel... there's another video of a lady doing one. youtube.com/watch
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Re: Huge Hoops of the metal variety
Sat, October 28, 2006 - 11:22 AMI want to do that! It looks like so much fun! I wonder where you could get one of those? -
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Re: Huge Hoops of the metal variety
Sat, October 28, 2006 - 1:20 PMwow, now thats spun!
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Re: Huge Hoops of the metal variety
Sat, October 28, 2006 - 5:15 PM
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Re: Huge Hoops of the metal variety
Sat, October 28, 2006 - 1:34 PMIt's called a cyr wheel, and was inventen by... I think his name was daniel cyr. They were first used by Cirque Éloize, but are becomming more common in the circus world. But yea, it's a kin to the German Wheel.
I think you'd have to take classes at a circus school to learn it, becuase I'd image it'd take a shit load of work to do. -
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Re: Huge Hoops of the metal variety
Sat, October 28, 2006 - 8:15 PMI bet if I had one I could figure it out! -
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Re: Huge Hoops of the metal variety
Sun, October 29, 2006 - 12:15 AM...just watch out for your fingers! -
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Re: Huge Hoops of the metal variety
Sun, October 29, 2006 - 2:58 AMI really want to play with one of those!!!!!!! I dont mind training!!!!!!!!!!. Where do you think one can go about finding one??????????????? :O -
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Re: Huge Hoops of the metal variety
Sun, October 29, 2006 - 5:38 AMI was searching the net and found that you should contact Mr Cyr himself to buy one.
Im pretty sure one could build it but not sure how... and it should be quite expensive.
I saw the latest show of Cirque Eloize a few weeks ago and it was stunning. The wheel act was moving.
I'd love to try as well, but I reckon one should train and do lots of acro to be able to do it. I will keep investigating till i find one :) -
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Re: Roue-Cyr
Sun, October 29, 2006 - 9:08 AMSo the apparatus is actually called a Roue-Cyr... and if you search Roue-Cyr on Youtube you'll actually find a bunch of videos with people who are currently practicing the art!
I'm gonna try and get into contact with one or two of those people from youtube to ask how and what and where and all that good stuff.
But for now i'm gonna go watch some more cool videos and get really amped about possibly trying to learn (a girl can dream) =) -
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Re: Roue-Cyr
Sun, October 29, 2006 - 9:45 AMI've just emailed Daniel Cyr, and will report back with all his answers about buying/learning the Cyr wheel... :)
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Re: Roue-Cyr
Sun, October 29, 2006 - 4:01 PMyes! let us know!
if it turns out to be exorbitantly expensive, i wonder if any of the metal workers i know could make one? hmmm...
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Re: Roue-Cyr
Sun, October 29, 2006 - 3:33 PMI am utterly fascinated by the Roue-Cyr - and like so many others, I really want one!
There are tons of cool videos out there of various performers using the Roue-Cyr, and I'm realizing that it's probably not as easy as some performers make it look!
But I think with the proper training, most of us hoopers could learn to rock it! :)
Check out this video - www.julielavergne.com/roue/im...lweb.wmv
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Re: Roue-Cyr
Sun, October 29, 2006 - 4:59 PMHow on earth does she not mash her fingers!?! -
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Re: Roue-Cyr
Sun, October 29, 2006 - 5:03 PMin another video, there is more clarity, and i saw that when they go upside down they flatten their hands, like they are doing cartwheels!
i am so excited to try this! lol
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Video list
Sun, October 29, 2006 - 4:58 PMHere is a list of every video I can find on roue cyr
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www.julielavergne.com/roue/im...lweb.wmv
www.swebounce.com/gallery/details.php
i have enlisted a metal-working friend of mine to make one for me. ill let you all know how it goes! -
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Mon, October 30, 2006 - 3:42 AMWatching all those videos i find myself in a bit of a dream or meditative state. I can imagine the feeling at the very centre of your body to be that which i experience when i dance in my dreams (the movement of my body is the same stretched but it happens quite often in the air). It is unlikely (bit of a self fulfilling prohesy) that i will come across a chance to study this fantastic and magnificent circluar thing in the Uk. Oh well, back to dreaming for me but I'd be interseted to hear about any one elses journey with this.
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Mon, October 30, 2006 - 6:43 AMSeems to me that the other piece of "equipment" you need is a very smooth floor. Thanks for the video list. It is trully beautiful and inspiring.
I'm going up to Washington DC to catch Corteo with my family. If I was twenty years younger, I swear I'd run away with the circus. But I realize the reality of this kind of performance is a lifetime of hard work, sacrifice and training. So glad I get to do it on my own terms and for my own pleasure.
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Mon, October 30, 2006 - 6:57 AMDid you notice that every one of these folks spins in the same direction? I wonder if that inclination is somehow chakra related... I also wonder if they get dizzy? I ALSO wonder if your hoop needs to be fitted to your size somehow. I so want to try this. I think I could be doing it in no time. Something about it seems so natural... -
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Mon, October 30, 2006 - 11:04 AMOne of the videos shows a guy who looks like he's working in a hoop that is just a little small - arms and knees bend, back hunched a bit... not quite as elegant that way! I included sizing in my query to Mr Cyr (haven't heard back from him yet, siigh) since i know that sizing OUR hoops is pretty important :) Oh yeah, and floor smoothness was another question for him!
Interesting about them all spinning one way.. I think I'd want to challenge that right away! <grin> Maybe they spin in another direction in the Southern Hemisphere?
Heh... I make myself laugh :)
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Mon, October 30, 2006 - 11:18 AMit looks like the hoops are a little taller than the person. i am also wondering about the thickness of them. they need to be thin enough to grab onto, but thick enough to be strong, and be able to open your hands up so no smooshed fingers. my friend is bringing over some ideas for the materials on friday, ill let yall know what we decide on.
i am prolly gonna try it on the cul de sac first. if that turns out to be too bumpy, i am thinking an unused tennis court would be a good bet. i bet an unfinished basement would work well too, if i had one. <sigh>
being able to do the moves both ways will prolly open up a new realm of possibilities, like with hooping. :-D good thinking caroleeeena!
because it is "circus" stuff, i think people will be less willing to share what they know. but i bet we can figure it out, working together! yay hoopers! lol -
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Mon, October 30, 2006 - 11:52 AMActually, while searching around, I found a bunch of Circus Schools that teach Cyr classes. . San Fran jumps to mind (you luckys!) but there were some other locations, too..
Can't wait to hear about your experiments!
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Mon, October 30, 2006 - 1:11 PMI bet a gymasium floor would be ideal!!! -
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Mon, October 30, 2006 - 1:12 PMdoh! gymnasium..... Jeeeez.... -
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Mon, October 30, 2006 - 7:03 PMI've seen lots and lots and LOTS of French refrencing on the websites I've looked at... and mostly french performers too - not to mention Roue is french and Cyr sounds french as well.
I've spoken with a friend of mine (very briefly, he was in a hurry) who is a welder and he seems to think that aluminum alloy would be best at about a 2.5" diameter. That sounded right to me I think.
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Mon, October 30, 2006 - 7:53 PMThe ones that I've seen I believe were either 2" or 2.5" and most likely aluminum. And they were collapable. -
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Re: Video list
Sat, November 4, 2006 - 4:27 PMRoue is actually french for wheel... so "roue cyr" is french for "cyr wheel". I so want one too. I've been fascinated with them since seeing them pop up on you tube and watching Corteo. I bet it is a lot harder to do than it looks. I would think aluminum would not be heavy enough, but I don't know that much about metal. -
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Sat, November 4, 2006 - 4:48 PMalumnum alloy (alloy makes it stronger) can get quite heavy, depending on the grade: just think of the weight of a staff, a lot of those are made out of probably 1/2" aluminum, and are not very long... -
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Sat, November 4, 2006 - 10:46 PMI haven't heard back from M. Cyr, but a local dancer/dramaturgist I'm working with just told me today that he may know someone in Richmond (suburb of Vancouver) who is involved with a circus school there, who makes things like this. So, he's going to help me make that connection and hopefully I'll see some progress.
(circus school in the 'burbs? whoa... <grin>)
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Sun, November 5, 2006 - 10:48 AMHeres a playlist I made of nine YouTube vids.
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Mon, November 6, 2006 - 2:16 PMHere's some great info I got from a really nice guy on Youtube.....
Re: The Roue Cyr
They can be made my machinists and welders.
They should be made in alluminum and should have a ruber skin covering the metal.
They can be made in one piece, or up to five pieces.
The one piece Roue Cyr (Also known as Simple Wheel or Roue Simple) is lighter, but is harder to travel with, while the 5 piece wheel has the oposite qualities.
If you live near the greater Montréal area (Canada, province of Québec) you can contact a few people who make them, such as a company called Acrobatch or the man who made them popular, Daniel Cyr (Where the name Roue Cyr comes from).
To measure the diameter of the wheel, you should place a closed fist on the top of your head, and measure from the bottom of your heels with shoes to the top of your fist.
The measure will be the height of the inside of the wheel.
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Re: Video list
Mon, November 6, 2006 - 2:19 PMWoooohooo!
Awesome, thanks Cass :)
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Mon, November 6, 2006 - 2:20 PMGosh it looks taller than that on most people. Maybe they're using someone else's...
This is very interesting information. Thanks for doing the footwork Cass. -
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Mon, November 6, 2006 - 2:51 PMMy Pleaseure!
Also, I'm not sure really what he was saying about the rubber... you'd think that would hinder the movement, no?
As for the height, in most of the videos it looks as though the people are really bent at the knees and the waist, accounting for the extra space above their heads in the hoops i think. It's probably easier to get momentum if your knees are bent I'd think :)
Good luck to anyone embarking on this crafty endeavour! My welding friend may not be back in town for a bit so it looks like i may have to wait...
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Mon, November 6, 2006 - 2:59 PMI just fired off an email to burrardmechanical.com hoping that they can give me a quote..
Yeah, I was questioning the rubber.. but I remember seeing a link for American-made German Wheels that mentions that they are covered in PVC... but I guess if it IS rubber, it would help it not skid out at the bottom, when the hoop is on an angle with weight on it.. <Shrug>
I'm mentally trying to come up with a maximum amount of money I'd allow myself to spend, to get one of these built :)
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Thoughts on the wheel
Tue, November 7, 2006 - 8:07 AM1. I'd test it on a surface I owned / had responsibility for before I tried it on a tennis court. Seems that puppy is likely to leave marks if the asphalt is the wrong temperature.
2. There's a rental "toy" I've seen that's similar--a three-way gyroscope, wherein you can twist in all directions? Pay $10 for 10 minutes, or something. My very in-shape brother tried it once and said it was an exhausting workout. One of those kind that work all the core muscles you don't know you have. At the time, he was working out on a par with the Navy Seals in San Diego, so when he said it was a workout, that's saying something. Looks pretty similar.
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Re: Thoughts on the wheel
Tue, November 7, 2006 - 9:54 AMI can definatly see how the rubber is NOT a good idea. On a german wheel you are mostly rolling, not spinning like a top. On a roue cyr when you spin on one part of the wheel the rubber could grip the ground and get all twisted and seperated from the metal. Well its a theory anyway. -
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Re: Thoughts on the wheel
Wed, November 15, 2006 - 2:44 PM>I'm mentally trying to come up with a maximum amount of money I'd allow myself to spend, to get one of these built :)<
Well, ladies and gents i got a quote. Just under $200 with shipping from Vancouver. Here's how my buddy broke it up:
about $100 for the materials (2" thick alluminum alloy, around 20'-25' long)
about $40 for the guy to make it a perfect circle and weld it... but he'd have to send it to vancouver to be bent and welded because he does have the bend welder that they'd need.
and the rest for shipping costs. To and from vancouver.
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Wed, November 15, 2006 - 3:10 PMNot right before Christmas, but I'd spend that... is this going to be a one-piecer, or breakdown for transport?
(makes me wonder which Vancouver company he's working with, 'cause the two I contacted weren't interested in the job..)
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Re: Thoughts on the wheel
Wed, November 15, 2006 - 6:45 PMI think they'd be doing it as a favour to him, who's doing it as a favour to my friend, who's doing it as a favour to me.....
I may just wait until i know for sure if someone's coming to Nelson from Whistler, then just bring it along with them in the truck. That'd save me a ton of doh, yo. -
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Re: Thoughts on the wheel
Thu, November 16, 2006 - 2:17 PMI would do it. I find this idea fascinating. Count me in!
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Re: Huge Hoops of the metal variety
Thu, November 16, 2006 - 4:04 PMI contacted the Circus school here in San Francisco about training on this apparatus. They have someone who does German Wheel, which is similar but different. The lady I talked to was familiar with the Roue Cyr, but not sure if their German Wheel instructor, or somebody else, specifically works with it.
I'm really really intrigued by this because a) it's beautiful b) it looks really
