Hi there:
I am making a collapsible hoop and was going to use bungee cord to keep it together. However, I just saw collapsible hoops online with a different kind of connectors:
www.thespinsterz.com/hoops.htm
Can anyone tell me what those connection pieces are called? I would like to try and make one with those.... In a past post someone calls them body-panel-pins, but doing a google search on that word doesn't give me anything... I would like to be armed with the right term before I hit the hardware store :)
Many, many thanks!
~elena
I am making a collapsible hoop and was going to use bungee cord to keep it together. However, I just saw collapsible hoops online with a different kind of connectors:
www.thespinsterz.com/hoops.htm
Can anyone tell me what those connection pieces are called? I would like to try and make one with those.... In a past post someone calls them body-panel-pins, but doing a google search on that word doesn't give me anything... I would like to be armed with the right term before I hit the hardware store :)
Many, many thanks!
~elena
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Mon, July 21, 2008 - 9:18 PMHey, doesn't anybody know? I want to know too! I too spent awhile searching last night, to no avail.
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Mon, July 21, 2008 - 10:51 PM"snap buttons"
But I'll tell ya, as some one who uses them:
1) they're directional
2) they're hella hard to get done right
3) and you can't just crack them together, they require tight tolerances.
These things
www.bearclawmfg.com/catalog/...ts_id/262
took over a year to get just right. I really think the bungee method for non-fire hoops is perfectly acceptable and more convenient. -
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Tue, July 22, 2008 - 9:13 PMYeah I wish the bungee method was worth while.
I find that it gives the hoops way too much slack which makes it kind of floppy and difficult to control. Also over time the bungee stretches out and the hoop won't stay together.
The best method i have found for non fire hoops is the coil and Velcro method where you use one connector with the barb filed of and a Velcro strip to hold the ends together when uncoiled. I think this method works the best because you are not breaking up the shape of the circle so it stays stronger.
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Thu, July 24, 2008 - 10:47 AMMy collapsible hoop breaks down into three pieces but the connectors are just plastic pegs. The coupling is filed down at one end and a hole is drilled through the entire tube on the filed down end of the coupling. A peg is placed on both sides at each section. They look like little plastic nails with ribs. I put tape around the heads of the pins because I have cut my finger a couple of times but it works great and is very easy to collapse and put back together. I hope I explained that ok. -
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Fri, July 25, 2008 - 10:11 AMI dont quite see what you're saying but i'm very interested
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Fri, July 25, 2008 - 10:28 AMI'm guessing something like this with little plastic peg thingies is what she's describing?
www.thespinsterz.com/images/...ctor.jpg
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 10:16 AMI will try to explain better. You take the regular coupling connector that is ribbed on both sides. Grind down the ribbing on one side so that it will slip easily in and out of the poly tubing. You connect the ribbed end into one side of the hoop so that it stays. Then you connect the grounded down side through the other side of the hoop, drill a hole all the way through and put the plastic pins through both holes to keep it connected. Then, you would tape the hoop, cut the hoop in two more places and repeat the connector process at each cut. The cuts should be evenly spaced so that there are 3 sections about the same length. Then you can remove the pins and your hoop breaks down into 3 sections. When I take my hoop places I band the 3 sections together and tie a scarf or rope around each end so it looks like a bow (and arrow). Then I just sling it over my shoulder and go. When I connect my hoop I put a bit of tape over the pins because the plastic heads can be sharp on your fingers. -
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Thu, July 31, 2008 - 6:30 PMthats great!!! thank you :)
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Fri, July 25, 2008 - 7:13 AMI've also seen them named as spring clips.
Good luck finding where to buy them. I've been looking and I've found only 1 place in the UK and it's a tent place.
www.minimarquees.com/p/r-cla...px#thumb
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Fri, July 25, 2008 - 9:53 PMi've just used plastic anchors for screws and they work fine. you can even cut off the tip if you're using 1/2 inch tubing like i do. they come in different sizes. -
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 12:43 AMDoes anybody know what kind of connectors they use on this kind of collapsible hoop? and what they are called?
www.spirithoops.com/spiritho...lapsibles -
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 1:22 AMI've seen something like this before. Essentially, they have two connectors that swivel. There's a few ways to do this. But it requires a pretty flexible hoop.
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 1:26 AMyeah, are they still stirdy hoop??? I read that site back and forth and couldn't find what they were made of. I totally want one if it's a good buy. it looks like the perfect solution to economical collapsible hoopy love...?? -
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 12:02 PMNot familiar with that maker (took me 1/2 an hour just to figure out that they were in NJ). Check Hooping.org for other makers, their sites might have more specs.
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 12:28 PMI had two of these collapsible hoops. 1 was perfectly fine until a friend folded it the wrong way. The other I had broke (got a kink it) after only a couple months and good care. they never responded to me when I asked if they would send me another. So I wouldn't buy a hoop from them again.
I took the hoop apart to see how they made it. they just use the normal connectors, barely filed down. I started making my own and i don't even file down the connectors and they work fine. It's a lot cheaper and almost as easy as making a non collapsible hoop. All you need is to equal sized pieces of tubing and 2 connectors.
Just be careful when you collapse them...
Maré
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Thu, July 31, 2008 - 10:35 AMI looked for these for quite awhile before I found this link:
Quick-Release Button Connectors for Telescoping Tubing
www.mcmasters.com
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Thu, July 31, 2008 - 11:58 AMOops, a typo. Should be www.mcmaster.com.
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Thu, July 31, 2008 - 1:04 PMomg..your the bomb. I've been hunting hard for these!
Thanks : D
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Thu, July 31, 2008 - 10:55 AMPlease disregard my post. I'm a Troll. -
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Mon, August 4, 2008 - 12:27 AMOK if you say so - but thanks anyway! I also today had a look "inside the mouth" of an "exercise hoop" (I believe they're sold at Target) that has a similar mechanism. Hard to describe but I'll try:
The hoop is white translucent tubing, probably 1/2" or possibly 5/8" diameter, with 1/8" rust-red rubbery "cushioning" slipped over the tubing (I wonder what THAT is?). It has a number of short sections so you can adjust the size of the finished hoop. The cushioning has a "marked spot" at each of the joints: you push on that (which is supposed to get you pushing on the buttion) and pull the sections apart. But we had trouble getting it apart, so peeled back the cushioning (more accurately, pushed it down the tub a bit as you would push down a sock). Then we could see the button - it was oval, and made of an orangey-red plastic.
Inside, we found what appeared to be a normal connector - but possibly it was merely a lenth of thinner tubing, it had no ridges (and no evidence of ridges filed off). One end was firmly stuck in place, the other held the button mechanism. That mechanism was the interesting part: it was nothing more than a large (1 1/2-2" long) spring, a lot like the spring that holds a clip clothespin together! Imagine this: take a length of springy wire, bend it a couple of inches from the end. Continue the bend around a mandrel (dowel, stick....anything round that you can later pull out). After you've made a couple of coils, leave another 2" long end. If you were to stand it on the coiled part, it would look like a V. Something like this \o/ (except you have to imagine the \ and / being a lot longer with respect to the little coil). The "button" is attached to the "top" end of the \ - away from the spring.
Then you have to make rather precise holes for the button in both the connector, and the matching part of the next segment. Then the whole v-assembly is slipped into the connector. You'll want to secure it somehow so that there's more than the button sticking through the hole in the connector (and Will Power) to keep things together.
This is probably as clear as mud - but hey, it's been a long day! -
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Mon, August 4, 2008 - 7:37 AMJust kidding about the Troll thing. ;-) What you described (very clearly I thought) is an interesting idea. I wonder if it would hold up under multiple adjustments? -
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Mon, August 4, 2008 - 12:39 PMIt'll be awhile till I can get around to trying it, but - I probably will. I've admired the "travel hoops" that come into three sections, but since I like large hoops (41-44"), the sections would be pretty long, so I thought maybe I'd try four sections. Heck, I COULD do more! - but we'll see.
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Mon, August 4, 2008 - 8:18 AMJust kidding about the Troll thing. ;-) What you described (very clearly I thought) is an interesting idea. I wonder if it would hold up under multiple adjustments?
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Tue, August 12, 2008 - 4:33 AMThat's a Betty Hoops hoop - it was my first hoop! I am intimately familiar with it, as I stripped off the foam to try and make it lighter. It is ridged underneath, so that is a BAD idea, and never do it. The cushioning is to protect against the ridges, and I suspect the ridges are to keep the foam on, except mine was peeling off anyway, since I'd dropped it so often.
Regarding the swivel hoops, you can do this with a normal hoop with one connector. Just make sure the tape is slit where the ends of the tube are, and you have to have a VERY well-fitting connector - none of those ones that sort of fit but then you have to tape them closed. I did this with both my Hoopnotica hoop *and* my pro-Mod LED hoop, and both swivel down for travel very nicely.
As with all swivel hoops, one wants to swivel it closed gently, as there tends to be one direction in which the hoop swivels easier than the other - just trial and error.
Flamma Aeterna makes collapsible hoops with push-button connectors - I find their connectors the best as I have bad hands and need something easy to use that will be very strong. They are starting to make multi-sectioned ones, currently they are doing three and four, but they can do up to six i think, which fits very nicely in a yoga bag. -
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Sun, August 17, 2008 - 6:31 PMhey Tam, did you mean "ProdMod" hoop? Did you modify it so that you have two connectors? I was planning on trying this weekend but didnt have time.
You should definitely send me photos or a video so I can show it off on my site.
That's what prodmod is all about after all!
I'd love to see it!
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Mon, August 18, 2008 - 11:58 AMHi Mike,
Oh shoot, I meant to email you and tell you that your hoop collapses. No second connector - just as is. I would send you a picture, but somehow the black part of the switch for my hoop has fallen *into* the hoop (but the rest of the switch is secure), and I must now open the hoop to figure out why, and to see if anything else got damaged, or is it just something some E6000 can take care of. -
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Yesterday, 9:46 PMi think someone posted a video on youtube showing a standard hoop collapsing into a figure 8 and then a small hoop. So I guess it should work for ours as well. looks like 1inch thick in the video. which do you have?
did you file you connector down? I wonder if that has an effect.
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Today, 5:23 AMYes, it collapses as is. I've done it many times to hide my hoop in my trunk while driving. No need for a second connector.
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Today, 5:28 AMThank you for the video!!!!!
I grind my connector nubs - It seems like a little extra grinding would help.
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