I cna't hoop around my waist anymore. I mean i was never that good at it, hence why i really wanted to learn tricks, i can hoop around my chest like nobody's business, i can do knees, i've got every part adjacent to it, but i find hooping around my waist...
Well i just can't do it anymore! 2, maybe 3 times around and it's either moving somewhere or headed straight for the ground.
I started crying becasue i couldn't just hoop around my waist without having to turn constantly, without it falling to my hips or going up to my chest.
to compensate i tried to learn a new trick, but now i just have swollen and bruised ankles and a bleeding toe (starting a hoop on the ground or ankle hooping is not good to do in flipflops and capris)
Has anyone ever found themselves loosing touch with the basics? How can i fix this?
Well i just can't do it anymore! 2, maybe 3 times around and it's either moving somewhere or headed straight for the ground.
I started crying becasue i couldn't just hoop around my waist without having to turn constantly, without it falling to my hips or going up to my chest.
to compensate i tried to learn a new trick, but now i just have swollen and bruised ankles and a bleeding toe (starting a hoop on the ground or ankle hooping is not good to do in flipflops and capris)
Has anyone ever found themselves loosing touch with the basics? How can i fix this?
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Re: Plain old hooping.
Sun, May 14, 2006 - 7:32 PMFor plain' ole waist hooping, most folks I've taught are "rockers" - one foot slightly forward than the other, and then the body moves in just a linear fashion, back and forth on one line. The other folks tend to be "wigglers" - feet even, and they wiggle their hips side-to-side.
With all the turning and other hoop moves you've been mastering, there's a possibility that you've lost the back-and-forthness that belongs to waist hooping and not much else... if you are hooping at your waist but your body starts moving in an oval or circle, the hoop will "stall" as its connection is held at the point of contact just a wee bit longer than usual, kiling the momentum.
Play with linear rocking or wiggling.. focus on a single push-point somewhere around your body (mine is at about two-oclock, if looking straight ahead is twelve... OH! And turn off the music! Heh.. if you are super-tuned to the rhythm of the music, you might be subconsciously following the beat more than the speed of the hoop itself, which won't work either!
Good luck :)
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Sun, May 14, 2006 - 10:06 PMrockers & wigglers - HA! great way of describing it. -
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Sun, May 14, 2006 - 10:09 PMthat sounds almost perverse.
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Re: Plain old hooping.
Sun, May 14, 2006 - 11:33 PMMy ankles are STILL recovering from learning the kick start... dunno if I was trying it the hard way, but kicking BACK with my heel from OUTSIDE the hoop works sooooo much better than kicking forwards with my ankle from INSIDE the hoop.
I bet having someone local to teach ME would save me a lot of pain in some ways :) Ah well.. more fun this way..
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Wed, May 17, 2006 - 8:49 AMGo the other way around.
What's wrong with turning?
Use a bigger hoop for a while.
Just do it for one song as a drill, like playing scales on the piano. I can do three minutes of just about anything. Sometimes I'll do three minutes in one direction as an exercise. -
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Re: Core hooping
Wed, May 17, 2006 - 9:19 AMI agree. The key to waist hooping is finding your core, your center. It's the same place one works with pilates, your core strength. There are a lot of ways to do this. I encourage you to try this routine for at least five minutes every day.
- Hoop to the right on your waist, while turning to the right
- Hoop to the right on your waist without turning
- While hooping to the right, turn to your left (against the hoop. This will be much faster. Try doing it in quarter steps.)
- Hoop to your left on your waist, while turning to the left
- Hoop to your left on your waist without turning
- Hoop to your left while turning to your right
Everytime you drop the hoop, pick it up and hoop in the other direction -- every single time. You are finding your center again. Hooping in both directions helps you zero in on this sweet spot.
If you have to, set a timer for five minutes and don't allow yourself to do any lifts or other moves for that five minutes. Save those for your reward. Dedicate that five minutes to finding your core - and you will, fast!
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Wed, May 17, 2006 - 9:21 AMi've found tightening up your abs helps keep the hoop up as well
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Re: Core hooping
Thu, May 18, 2006 - 2:13 PMif i try to turn the direction the hoop isn't going, it drops immediatelly.
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Thu, May 18, 2006 - 4:53 PMIf you're turning to the right against a hoop that is going counter clockwise around your waist, try planting your right foot and shuffling your left foot around it. It's a bit trying at first but you'll get it. Feel the point of contact on your waist, the place where it rolls around you, and move into that.
I know some have commented that most hoopers hoop side to side but I have also taught hoopers who started hooping by pushing their belly out and then sucking their belly in and pushing their behind out. I recommend you try that too.
Finally, I recommend getting the biggest hoop you can find or making a very huge hoop just for this exercise. It will slow things down considerably and help you over this hump. The bigger the hoop, the easier it is. I have a hoop here that is over 10 feet. It's so easy. You give it hip bump and wait, wait, wait for it to come around, give it a hip bump and have a cold beer, give it a hip bump and call your mom... You get the picture.
Hang in there and keep trying. Five minutes. It's just five minutes. Pretty soon you'll be coming here to tell us, "I just waist hooped for five whole minutes!" And I am looking forward to hearing it. You go girl! -
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Re: Core hooping
Thu, May 18, 2006 - 11:25 PMI describe turning against the hoop as "short, fast, belly-bumping moves as you turn....".. almost double-speed compared to the on-beat pivot-steps when I turn with the hoop....
BUT.. if you're still needing work on keeping the hoop up while stationary, I wouldn't get into turning against the hoop.. the one skill needs to build on the other
However/.. turning WITH the hoop can be done even before you can keep the hoop up with waist hooping: give it a spin, then TWIRL with it, trying to keep one point on the hoop in contact with one point of your body. (I call this 'stalling').. no actual hoop skills required, if you can keep turning/twirling without getting dizzy :)
How's the core hooping going, anyway?
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Fri, May 19, 2006 - 12:42 AM
everyone calls it stalling, and stalling in one of the most important skills you can develop in the early going. -
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Fri, May 19, 2006 - 12:46 AM"everyone"? Hah! I know YOU call it stalling, and I call it stalling.. but after being in those other threads where we were half-heartedly trying to come up with a common vocabulary, I learned to stop assuming such things :)
(I'm particularly tickled with your post, since you and Spiral teach the Hoop Path with all that funky terminology for everything, teehee!)
I'm pretty much resigned to teaching my classes and workshops with a lot of "Okay, now let's do THIS.. and remember to do THIS and THIS, focus on THAT..."... and just depending on the visuals to cue in meaning, 'cause the words certainly don't!
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