The purpose of this post is two-fold. First I want to apologize (again) to the owner of the fuzzy green hoop. Second, I hope that, by sharing my mistake, I can help other hoopers to avoid the same embarrassment.
During the 4 days of the High Sierra Music Fest the majority of hoops were available for anyone to play with. Hoops got passed around amongst the hoopers, and hooper-curious, but always remained in the same general vicinity of where they were left.
However, some hoops were NOT for general play. For example, Anah had brought some beautifull hoops decorated in holographic and glitter tapes which were for sale and not for general use. Other special hoops, decorated for the occaision, were also guarded.
One hoop was wrapped in fuzzy green. I don't yet know the name of it's owner but (eventually) I did learn that this hoop was brand new. She had bought it at the festival that same weekend, I think.
On the last day of the festival (Sunday) I was at the Americana stage dancing to Ten Mile Tide. During one song I wanted to hoop and started looking around for a hoop to use (the 3 hoops that I had brought were at the Main stage). There was only one hoop in the area ........ the fuzzy green hoop. No other hoops were in sight. I approached the owner and said "can I use your hoop". In retrospect, I could see that she was hesitant to loan it. I persisted with the line "I won't drop it !!" and the gal handed over the hoop for me to play with. It was a joy to spin this hoop on my waist while Ten Mile Tide were rocking. The hoop was a very different weight to my own hoops (it had water inside) and spun differently due to it's fuzziness. This should have been a warning to me to take very good care.
I only did moves that I am very confident with BUT (yeah, you guessed it) eventually I dropped the hoop.
At every other stage at HSMF this wouldn't have been a problem. All the other stages were surrounded by soft, lush grass. But the area around the Americana stage was dry, dusty, hard and covered in dead pine needles. When I picked up the dropped hoop it was covered in dead pine needles on the "down side". I was horrified. I can't imagine how the owner felt when she saw me picking the shit out of her brand new fuzzy green hoop. We spent about 5 minutes, in silence, gently picking dead pine needles out of the green fuzz. It was really embarrasing for me and then the owner took the hoop off to a safe place.
So I'm posting this note to say that I am really, really sorry that I didn't pick up on how precious your hoop was in the first place, and that I am also very sorry that it ended up in the dusty pine-needles because I wasn't smart enough to realize that the hoop behaved differently than my own hoops and that I should have been much more carefull.
To everyone else, I hope that this story will help you to realize that not all hoops are communal (some are particularly precious) and it's important for us to recogize and respect that fact. Also, that it makes good sense to be extra carefull with hoops that behave differently than our own hoops. In this circumstance I should have only used the hoop around my waist where it would have remained safe. It was an overhead move that resulted it tragedy.
I had such a great time meeting all the hoopers from the west coast and I hope that I will be remembered as that really enthusiastic, older guy and not as the idiot that dropped the fuzzy green hoop ........ or the twit that set of the car alarm at 3am ..... but that's another story !!
Thank you all for your fabulous encouragement and for teaching me new tricks. I will write more about HSMF in another post.
For now I will say that I have surely learnt an important lesson. That is, that not all hoops are for everybody's use. Some hoops, at somes times, are too precious to be handed over to a stranger. I will endevour to be sensitive to that fact.
Love, hugs and hoopiness to you all,
Brendan in Vancouver.
p.s. my guess is that i'm more freaked-out about this incident than the owner of the hoop is, but I did want to share my lesson with y'all.
During the 4 days of the High Sierra Music Fest the majority of hoops were available for anyone to play with. Hoops got passed around amongst the hoopers, and hooper-curious, but always remained in the same general vicinity of where they were left.
However, some hoops were NOT for general play. For example, Anah had brought some beautifull hoops decorated in holographic and glitter tapes which were for sale and not for general use. Other special hoops, decorated for the occaision, were also guarded.
One hoop was wrapped in fuzzy green. I don't yet know the name of it's owner but (eventually) I did learn that this hoop was brand new. She had bought it at the festival that same weekend, I think.
On the last day of the festival (Sunday) I was at the Americana stage dancing to Ten Mile Tide. During one song I wanted to hoop and started looking around for a hoop to use (the 3 hoops that I had brought were at the Main stage). There was only one hoop in the area ........ the fuzzy green hoop. No other hoops were in sight. I approached the owner and said "can I use your hoop". In retrospect, I could see that she was hesitant to loan it. I persisted with the line "I won't drop it !!" and the gal handed over the hoop for me to play with. It was a joy to spin this hoop on my waist while Ten Mile Tide were rocking. The hoop was a very different weight to my own hoops (it had water inside) and spun differently due to it's fuzziness. This should have been a warning to me to take very good care.
I only did moves that I am very confident with BUT (yeah, you guessed it) eventually I dropped the hoop.
At every other stage at HSMF this wouldn't have been a problem. All the other stages were surrounded by soft, lush grass. But the area around the Americana stage was dry, dusty, hard and covered in dead pine needles. When I picked up the dropped hoop it was covered in dead pine needles on the "down side". I was horrified. I can't imagine how the owner felt when she saw me picking the shit out of her brand new fuzzy green hoop. We spent about 5 minutes, in silence, gently picking dead pine needles out of the green fuzz. It was really embarrasing for me and then the owner took the hoop off to a safe place.
So I'm posting this note to say that I am really, really sorry that I didn't pick up on how precious your hoop was in the first place, and that I am also very sorry that it ended up in the dusty pine-needles because I wasn't smart enough to realize that the hoop behaved differently than my own hoops and that I should have been much more carefull.
To everyone else, I hope that this story will help you to realize that not all hoops are communal (some are particularly precious) and it's important for us to recogize and respect that fact. Also, that it makes good sense to be extra carefull with hoops that behave differently than our own hoops. In this circumstance I should have only used the hoop around my waist where it would have remained safe. It was an overhead move that resulted it tragedy.
I had such a great time meeting all the hoopers from the west coast and I hope that I will be remembered as that really enthusiastic, older guy and not as the idiot that dropped the fuzzy green hoop ........ or the twit that set of the car alarm at 3am ..... but that's another story !!
Thank you all for your fabulous encouragement and for teaching me new tricks. I will write more about HSMF in another post.
For now I will say that I have surely learnt an important lesson. That is, that not all hoops are for everybody's use. Some hoops, at somes times, are too precious to be handed over to a stranger. I will endevour to be sensitive to that fact.
Love, hugs and hoopiness to you all,
Brendan in Vancouver.
p.s. my guess is that i'm more freaked-out about this incident than the owner of the hoop is, but I did want to share my lesson with y'all.
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Re: The fuzzy green hoop, hooping faux-pas, and my sincere apologies.
Wed, July 6, 2005 - 9:57 PMBrendan, this is such a great post. We ALL make these mistakes ... in fact, I've been on both sides of the coin! I once managed to accidently pick the ONE special performance hoop out of a pile of communal hoops (oops!) and knock it all over th place. I felt terrible -- what's the chance of grabbing the ONE off limits hoop from a stack against a wall?
Then again, another time, I watched a guy at a party pick up MY favorite hoop and proceed to not hoop with it, but wildly thrash it around, squish it oblong, and bend it. I felt like a little kid having to stomp up and ask him to STOP IT -- YOU'RE BREAKING MY TOY!, but it's true that some hoops are for sharing ... and some hoops aren't.
Oh oh! And then there was the guy at the Oracle Gathering last year who borrowed a hoop and wandered off with it. It went home with a friend of a friend and it took me a year to get it back ... then I went to this year's Oracle Gathering and there was that SAME GUY! And he asked if he could borrow my hoop again! I had to play the meany and say "Yes, but the last time you borrowed my hoop at this same party LAST YEAR you didn't return it and it took me until just recently to get it back. SO I'M WATCHING YOU, BUDDY!"
I think this taps into one of the things I love about the hoop community: for the most party, hoops ARE for sharing. It feels weird to withold toys from each other. But sometimes hoops are special, and it's ok to say no. :) But it's also ok to say "Oh no: I'm so sorry...." like Brendan did. Bravo. :) -
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Re: The fuzzy green hoop, hooping faux-pas, and my sincere apologies.
Thu, July 7, 2005 - 10:09 AMI had just bought a new hoop from Gavin at the last hoop workshop; he sold me his own sparkly blue and gold one. I then had my shower and went directly to a Wharf Rats meeting. While in the meeting (my new hoop was in front of the booth) a girl walked up and grabbed my new hoop! Then after the meeting a friend grabbed it to try out--mind you I hadn't even gotten to hoop with it yet. I wouldn't let him try it until I got to use it myself. So I'm a little possessive of my own. Especially a new sparkly one.
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Wed, July 6, 2005 - 10:01 PMbrendan, this is a great post! thank you -
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Re: The fuzzy green hoop, hooping faux-pas, and my sincere apologies.
Thu, July 7, 2005 - 9:58 AMexcellent post.
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Thu, July 7, 2005 - 10:27 AMbrendan, you are super sweet!
this is also a reminder, however, that if you bring hoops to a public space, people are going to want to use them. if a hoop is really precious, don't let people borrow it and keep it stashed well away from any other hoops. i always feel bad telling someone "no" when they ask to borrow some of my nicer/more expensive hoops, but you really have to learn to say no kindly in order to keep them in shape. hold on to those babies! :) -
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Re: The fuzzy green hoop, hooping faux-pas, and my sincere apologies.
Thu, July 7, 2005 - 11:51 AMthanks for your responses to my tale.
you will have read in my post that the gal was hesitant to loan the hoop.
I wasn't sensitive to her initial response and body language.
I persisted with the line "I won't drop it!!"
I made it difficult for her to refuse me.
As stated before, I've surely learnt my lesson on this one .... won't happen again with me.
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Re: The fuzzy green hoop, hooping faux-pas, and my sincere apologies.
Thu, July 7, 2005 - 1:08 PMon this line of thinking...i have a hoopetiquette question:
when i bring hoops to events i am very happy to lend them to others.
however, when one of my favorite songs comes on that i want to hoop to more than anything...i will approach a person using my hoop and ask for it back.
i feel guilty doing it...but that song and a few others are the reason i bring the hoop for myself...so i can hoop to it.
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Re: The fuzzy green hoop, hooping faux-pas, and my sincere apologies.
Thu, July 7, 2005 - 3:35 PMTotally legit! I did this tons last weekend, along with trading hoop sizes back and forth with other folk, depending on what stuff I wanted to work on, or help another hooper with.. (mostly along the lines of taking my baby hoops away from adults so the 5-year-olds didn't have to struggle with my regular sized hoops...)
Heh, funny how "regular" now means "adult" <grin>
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Re: The fuzzy green hoop, hooping faux-pas, and my sincere apologies.
Thu, July 7, 2005 - 5:49 PMyeah! it's easy when you can find another (unused hoop) to trade with yours that's being used.
However, the bottom line has to be "excuse me, it's my hoop and this is my favourite song, please hand it over right now, thanks!" -
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Re: The fuzzy green hoop, hooping faux-pas, and my sincere apologies.
Fri, July 8, 2005 - 8:55 AMditto. it IS yours. you absolutely have the right to ask for it back.
This brings up another hoop etiquette question ... last night, I brought music to the park at our gathering. Everyone seemed to be enjoying it, and I was willing to change it to something else if anyone asked. Then someone joined us with a noisy hoop - like a baby rattle. It was mildly annoying at first and got progressively more intrusive. A couple people walked away from the area where we were hooping. Finally, I offered the person one of my quiet hoops and asked if she would mind .... she refused, seemed totally offended and left. I felt really bad ... I wasn't trying to kick her out - just asking if she would mind switching - we could've/would've moved, too ... anyway, I just felt really bad about it afterwards - what would you all do? -
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Re: The fuzzy green hoop, hooping faux-pas, and my sincere apologies.
Fri, July 8, 2005 - 10:04 AMfirst, when i'm out dancing, if i want to use one of my hoops, i think it's absolutely OK for me to (politely) ask for one back if they are all being used. most people are quite Ok with handing them back over.
as for the incident in the park, it seems to me that this woman perhaps should have had a little more respect for everyone else around her, and for her to get offended was no fault of yours. i'm not sure i would have said anything, but sometimes people need a gentle reminder that they might be disturbing others.
just wondering - was it a full size hoop that she had put something in, or a store-bought one? -
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Re: The fuzzy green hoop, hooping faux-pas, and my sincere apologies.
Fri, July 8, 2005 - 10:34 AMfull size hoop like we use :)
I just felt bad - but I also felt bad for all the people who were rolling their eyes about the noise, too. I don't understand why I feel so responsible for these things??
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Re: The fuzzy green hoop, hooping faux-pas, and my sincere apologies.
Fri, July 8, 2005 - 10:59 AM100% allowed. -
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Re: The fuzzy green hoop, hooping faux-pas, and my sincere apologies.
Fri, July 8, 2005 - 11:53 AMRuby and i went to a chicago dj in the park thing and (naturally) brought our hoops (about 4-5). before we even got to hoop with 'em, a bunch of kids ran up and borrowed them (which was fine with me, for a little while). after about an hour of that, i started getting really frustrated and asked for my hoop back from this little girl (no more than 7). her mom gave me this horrid dirty look!! i felt kinda bad, but hey... its my hoop.
so, moral of the story: dont bring extra hoops so that people dont think you're there to "loan" them out. -
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Re: The fuzzy green hoop, hooping faux-pas, and my sincere apologies.
Fri, July 8, 2005 - 12:20 PMrude children + hoops = GRRRR.
children + hoops + mud = HELLS NO.
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Fri, July 8, 2005 - 12:28 PMsomewhat tangentially (sp?), but related to the subject posting.
does anyone have any suggestions for making fabric (fuzzy! furry!) covered hoops? Long strips with glue? some other magical method?
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Re: The fuzzy green hoop, hooping faux-pas, and my sincere apologies.
Fri, July 8, 2005 - 12:53 PMKastania, there was a whole thread about fabric hoops:
seattle.tribe.net/thread/e1...ddc4c9095c -
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Fri, July 8, 2005 - 3:27 PMooh! thank you!
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Re: The fuzzy green hoop, hooping faux-pas, and my sincere apologies.
Fri, July 8, 2005 - 3:39 PMKids LOVE hoops, but they can be (a little) rough with them; they'll roll them around, bend and pull them and whatever their little imaginations can think up. It makes me feel bad to say 'no' to a cute little kid, so I try to bring "Decoy" hoops, kid-sized hoops that can take a beating. I also bring 2 big ones for myself or other adults. That way you have 2 hoops if you want to double hoop, or loan one out. Everyone is happy and you can keep your favorite hoop proprietary. -
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Re: The fuzzy green hoop, hooping faux-pas, and my sincere apologies.
Sat, July 9, 2005 - 8:42 PMgreat post! I like to have a few hoops for people to play with , it just makes it morefun. I usually also have my own bling blang hoop I would raher not let anyone else use though. Here is a little a trick I use to keep people from useing my hoop:
Tie a sweater or some other bulky object around the hoops you would rather not let anyone else use. This usually deters people even if you are not standing right there. If you really want to be safe tie a complicated knot. ;?)
I have no problem asking for my hoop back when I want to use it. I just ask with a smile and a "would be alright if I used my hoop for a while?" Most people understand, and if they don't.. who needs 'em! ;)
Hoopfully see you all on the playa!
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Re: The fuzzy green hoop, hooping faux-pas, and my sincere apologies.
Sun, July 10, 2005 - 4:57 AMTie a sweater around the hoops.
Yikes! in our world where MOST hoops are communal this slight gesture indicates "go look for the communal hoops" .... nice one, Anah!
And yes !! when I left my 3 hoops in the "family shade area" on the main stage field at HSMF no-one used them. When they were left IN the field (away from the family shade area) they were in constant motion.
I didn't have to worry about my hoops for the full 4 days.
When they were in use I knew where they were.
And when I put them "to rest" no one used them.
And tied up in a sweater is a great indicator of "hoop resting".
When I put them out to play they were hooping for more hours than me.
So I 'spose it's only fair to the hoops to let them roam a bit.
;-)
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Re: The fuzzy green hoop, hooping faux-pas, and my sincere apologies.
Sun, July 10, 2005 - 11:48 PMDropping the hoop a few times isn't as bad as when folks decide they like spinning your hoop on the ground like a wheel that comes back to them! I don't think they realize what that does to the tape job! Or maybe they do and they just don't care. On those occasions, I need to educate them. Once I get good at taping, I won't care as much, and will probably have some hoops that can take a beating better at parties. -
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Mon, July 11, 2005 - 1:18 AMhoop "skipping" is also pretty scary ...... bends the hoop out of shape when the skipper accidently jumps ON the hoop instead of THRU the hoop.
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Re: The fuzzy green hoop, hooping faux-pas, and my sincere apologies.
Tue, July 12, 2005 - 11:07 AMomg! i love that cute fuzzy green hoop!!!
thank you, ariel, for making it the main tribe pic!!
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Tue, July 12, 2005 - 11:56 AMThe fuzzy green hoop lives on in infamy! ;)
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