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Hey guys and gals,
I am a newbie here, just got my first hoop at High Sierra, and very eager to start making them for everybody I know!
The hoop I bought is weighted with water and I wanted to know the advantages/disadvantages of this before I start construction.
Thanks in advance for any insight.
=o)
Ellen
I am a newbie here, just got my first hoop at High Sierra, and very eager to start making them for everybody I know!
The hoop I bought is weighted with water and I wanted to know the advantages/disadvantages of this before I start construction.
Thanks in advance for any insight.
=o)
Ellen
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Re: question regarding hoopmaking
Mon, July 25, 2005 - 3:48 PMI think most everyone will agree that you should stay away from weighting them with water. Try to find 3/4 inch tubing at 160PSI, or 1 inch at 100PSI.
Or you can use 3/4 inch 100 PSI tubing and weight it down by wrapping it with a few rolls of electric tape, and then cover that with colored cloth tape.
Basically when you have water in it it's a bit unbalanced as the water sloshes around inside. Also, the water seems to eventually come out or evaporate. My first hoop had water in it, but doesn't seem to anymore. It's much lighter now as well.
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Re: question regarding hoopmaking
Mon, July 25, 2005 - 3:48 PMOf the fifteen hoops that I took out to the Vancouver Folk Music Festival, the water-filled hoop was the only one that broke, during three days of near-constant useage. It was made of 3/4" tubing, 160 psi, and wrapped in one layer of duct tape (plus extra at the join, over the coupler) and one layer of decorative electrical tape.
While hooping with it, the weight of the water would pull it into an oval shape fairly quickly, and it had a much slower spin than the non-water hoops of similar size and weight. I've heard maybe 3 people say they preferred it over the non-water hoops, out of the couple hundred who have played with my hoops :)
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Re: question regarding hoopmaking
Mon, July 25, 2005 - 3:50 PMi personally do prefer a little water, but depends on the tubing too, when i get 100 psi i would rather have water but that is because i like my hoops heavy, i like to dance slowly with them and keep the lighter ones for tricks, what i do when i make them is if i make 16 hoops 6 have water and 10 dont, but it is up to what you prefer i guess. i am obviusly in the minority here -
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Re: question regarding hoopmaking
Thu, July 28, 2005 - 11:18 AMI made some recently with water and I enjoy them as well sometimes. Each hoop is an individual and sometimes I like the weight and force of the water, and sometimes I want something different.
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Re: question regarding hoopmaking
Mon, July 25, 2005 - 3:52 PMmy opinion is, don't add water, sand, popcorn, or anything to the inside. assuming the hoop without water has been taped to add weight (and wonderful colors) you'll notice the hoop without water is far more predictable and balanced.
since you're planning on making hoops, then experiment and try a hoop with and one without. most likely you'll learn why most people don't add water.
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Re: question regarding hoopmaking
Mon, July 25, 2005 - 4:23 PMwhatever you do, definitely follow Jason's careful instructions! :)
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Re: question regarding hoopmaking
Mon, July 25, 2005 - 4:55 PMThanks for everybody's input/advice.
I think that I will make one without water and see which I like better.
Now, anybody know where can I get the tubing in the Bay Area?
I have called all over without any luck for the high density polyethelene.
Even Lowe's in Livermore told me over the phone that they don't have it. But I may just have to drive out there and see for myself, since most of the people that I've talked to at home repair stores seem to have no clue what I'm talking about. -
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Re: question regarding hoopmaking
Mon, July 25, 2005 - 4:58 PMTubing in SF has been talked about repeatedly. :) Check this thread for more info: tinyurl.com/afo98
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Re: question regarding hoopmaking
Mon, July 25, 2005 - 5:51 PMI just drove to Lowe's in Vacaville to find some. Not too bad of a drive on the weekend during non-traffic times about 40 min each way.
They did not have the 160 psi, but had both 3/4" & 1" 100psi in stock. It was 18.88 for 100ft. -
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Re: question regarding hoopmaking
Mon, July 25, 2005 - 6:57 PMThanks! I will probably make the trek this week as well.
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Re: question regarding hoopmaking
Mon, July 25, 2005 - 10:56 PMLowe's in Livermore doesn't have a clue that they have it. It's not even in the same aisle as the other poly tubing. Basically, when you get there, you think they don't have it. But they do. Just take the plunge. -
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Re: question regarding hoopmaking
Mon, July 25, 2005 - 11:32 PMSweet!
What a FANTASTIC resource you all are!
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Re: question regarding hoopmaking
Wed, August 10, 2005 - 5:48 PMOK - I realize that I'm a novice hooper/hoopmaker - but I think that I figured out the water in the hoop thang as it pertains to me and my one month of experience. =o)
I am covering many of the hoops I make with fur and the water helps to counteract the drag. Without a little water, it's ALOT more work to keep the furry buggers spinning.
So, at least for now... Regular taped hoops - no water. Hoops with fur - water.
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