i absolutely love watching everyone's hooping video submissions... but one question has been gnawing at me for a while now -- how in the world does everyone look so april-fresh in their videos? when i'm hooping, within 10 minutes i'm red-faced and sweating... now granted, part of it is that i'm woefully out of shape after going the better part of a year without hooping (darn neck injury)... but darnit, i can't be *that* different from the rest of you, can i? so what's the secret? i figure it's something like:
1. people tape at the very beginning of their sessions so they're not grossed-up yet
2. there's a secret movement underway where hoopers have their sweat glands removed
3. special effects in post-production
but seriously... do you really stop getting sweaty and red-faced once you've been hooping for years? or is there some way to put less effort in that conserves energy (and sweat)? i'd love to do some festival hooping this summer, but the thought of being sweaty and gross for the entire day gives me pause. what's the secret?
1. people tape at the very beginning of their sessions so they're not grossed-up yet
2. there's a secret movement underway where hoopers have their sweat glands removed
3. special effects in post-production
but seriously... do you really stop getting sweaty and red-faced once you've been hooping for years? or is there some way to put less effort in that conserves energy (and sweat)? i'd love to do some festival hooping this summer, but the thought of being sweaty and gross for the entire day gives me pause. what's the secret?
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Thu, July 10, 2008 - 6:42 PM*snorting laugh*
This is so funny because I'm constantly wondering why I'm a sweaty mess with nasty hair after my hooping session and people in videos look fresh out of the shower.... is it because I used a 2lbs, 43" hoops( which is huge for me since I'm really tiny but I like 'em big and hefty) Or am I THAT out of shape? (I workout a lot though).... what's the secret?!
I also tend to workout (hoop as well) in ugly gym clothes....down to the sweatband and wristband(oh yeah, old school!).....Yeah I really don't feel camera ready when I hoop......but they all look so good in the videos!
This post cracked me up Jennifer, so happy to see it's not just me!
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Thu, July 10, 2008 - 6:44 PMIts cause they're all in the Pacific Northwest! lol
Wanna see sweat? I'll send you links to the Texas hoopers, we perspire straight through to January ~:O
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Thu, July 10, 2008 - 6:50 PMGo for it. Get sweaty and red and we sweaty and red for an entire day. Embrace it. I get so sweaty and so red people sometimes worry about me. I also get hives. People are constantly asking me, "Did you hurt yourself?" or "Are you okay?" I just say go for it anyway. Who cares? Sweating is good for you. Not sweating is not good for you!
As for the video thing, yeah, so far, I have always done it as a one-shot deal, no warmup so I'm not sweaty YET! But that one that I did with Icky a couple of days ago, the Boogie Woogie Bugle Cat, I was totally sweating and sweaty. I try not to run the a/c if I don't have to so even though that was a first take, I was still sweaty. It was in the 90's here. I just don't care. I don't let it stop me. I just go for it. Sweat is healthy and if I'm sweating it's a sign that I'm healthy. Also, it's just a moment in time, a snapshot. Why not let it be of something real? Hooping on a hot summer day. Finally, if I let people asking about the hives get to me, I'd have to stop hooping ... and I love hooping -- no way am I stopping! So I've learned to live with it and adapt. Hooping is what I love and it's what I'm there to do so I just try to turn inside instead of outside and be in the experience without worrying about what other people think or any of that kind of stuff.
That said, I have found that as my technique improve, moves require less effort and this can result in less sweating. Also, when I'm strong and healthy, I seem to get less winded, though I still sweat ... especially if it's hot. I choose to be okay with it. I figure, if nothing else, it gives other people permission to be okay with it too. Plus, it does have the added benefit of allowing me to hoop and hoop and hoop...
I hope your neck injury is completely healed and that you hoop yourself into sweaty, healthy, happy oblivion all summer long. Fall too. Heck, all year if you can manage it. -
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Fri, July 11, 2008 - 1:01 PMgreat post! yes, i'm thrilled i'm finally wrestling this herniated disc into submission after so long (note to self: pole dancing is not something you just dive into when you're 37, it can cause ouchies). i've been jumping back into all sorts of dance classes and practice now that i'm feeling better, and it just so happens i now have an hour break between 2 dance classes at my studio and there's a big classroom not being used. WIN. except when i hooped this week in that in-between time, i was so gross i almost had to apologize for my sweaty state in the next class! i was frantically cranking the AC in my car to cool off before i went back in the building. hee.
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Thu, July 10, 2008 - 6:54 PMthis is great, i love it. Well I can tell you that I do get super sweaty and red very easily, and am out of shape. But in my videos, the quality is not as good, so you can't really make out the details of my face, and I like it that way! I also pick out an outfit when I decide to tape that day... something that hides my fat and stuff (otherwise I just hoop in random ensembles)..yup, totally guilty!
In fact, last week I video taped myself, but I was wearing these shorts that when I looked at the video later showed way too much cellulite, therefore I did not post the video! I'll be the first one to admit that I don't post pictures or videos of myself that are totally unflattering... -
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Thu, July 10, 2008 - 7:09 PMCanadians don't sweat. (I was gonna type "eh?" at the end of that, but that would be grammatically incorrect useage)
Just kidding!
Most of my pool deck videos were shot on warm-but-not-stifling spring days... and often at the beginning of a session, since I felt silly running around in a practice costume in front of the swim team for too long...
... but another big part of that is that things get easier the more you do them (therefore, less heart-rate-raising and sweat-producing).. and sometimes we stop the tape or edit it just at the point we're gonna die!
www.youtube.com/watch
This one I stopped just in time.. and then was huffing so hard after I could hardly talk!
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Thu, July 10, 2008 - 8:35 PMMaybe the video quality doesn't let it show as much but like Patric says,
we sweat down here in Tejas. A lot.
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Thu, July 10, 2008 - 9:55 PMI don't get red faced, but I do get a little sweaty, but I think it's nice. It makes me feel like I'm really working out and it cools me off. However, I do get EXTREMELY out of breath after a fast techno song, especially if I'm performing because I get more nervous and jittery in front of an audience. Like, I sound as if I've run a marathon. People will come up and ask me things like, "So how long have you been doing that?" and I respond like "*huff*yeah....I....*huff*....I've.....been....learning...*wheeze*....since....Oct...oct...tober..*pass out on the floor*" Pretty much that, lol. Anyway, happy hooping!
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Fri, July 11, 2008 - 4:49 AMGreat post Jennifer!
I can really relate to this. I have felt just the same. I watch the videos and I wonder how they can look so fabulous. Last weekend I got to hoop with some UK hoopers which was great fun. But at the end of a very long session I looked like I'd come through a hedge backwards and was all red and sweaty too, but the others looked the same perfectly turned out girls I'd met in the morning! Complete with make up and nice hair. Putting us side by side you would not have thought we'd been at it the same amount of time. Even the hair thing. Mine was like a total tangled bush and theirs remained sleek and glossy. It had been very windy but only I showed it.
If I hoop hard for a while I always have a towel on hand to mop my face and neck. I used to be embarrassed about this, but I have had to get used to it. It's definitely not in the mind because people regularly look at me and comment. Nice! I think it's actually biological. Like many other things. My Dad has always been the same, and I look like him, so I guess I am quite like him in other ways. If either of us eats a bit of strong cheese we immediately produce beads of cold sweat on our faces and in our scalps. When I was a child I was fascinated by Dad always mopping his face with a hankie. Now it's me! I actually gave up wearing make-up about 10 years ago because of this. It would just run and look terrible in no time at all. And I live in the UK. We don't have sun like Texas here. Just doing housework or general tasks makes me very hot.
At the end of hooping I usually have to jump straight into the bath because I'll be very sweaty and my hair will be literally dripping. But there's nothing I can do about it, so I have to get on with it. It's nice to know others have the same situation to deal with, because it can make you very self-conscious. But it's only water! And it doesn't smell. It's just wet.
OK, I'm going to go and get wet a) getting to the village hall in the rain and then b) by hooping up there!
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Fri, July 11, 2008 - 4:57 AMBoy, have I been getting sweaty soaked living here in good 'ole HUMID Pennsyltucky, but I like to think all that sweating while hooping is sweating off a few pounds of the "comfy relationship" wieght gain I have gone thru the last year ;-)
This is a fabulous post, made me giggle ;-)
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Sat, July 12, 2008 - 2:04 AMi thought it was menopause..glad to know maybe i just sweat alot lol.
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Fri, July 11, 2008 - 5:26 AMi have the same sweaty issues here in humid alabama. i sweat profusely from merely stepping out of doors. but the lovely victoria made me feel much better about it by explaining it was natural and healthy, and to have such glandular function should be embraced. However, it seems that it takes me a while to get warmed up and into the groove. By the time I am figuring out new tricks, I can do them for a few minutes, but then my hoop starts launching off my body because of all the sweat. i try to use my hoopnotica travel hoop when i get a good sweat going, cause it sticks the best, but after a while i just have to give up until i dry out. i lug a towel with me everywhere. *sigh* -
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Fri, July 11, 2008 - 7:44 AMThe compression that occurs when we load our videos onto youtube has the effect of airbrushing, in my opinion. It's better than botox! Seriously, an uploaded video hides a world of sins: wrinkles, sweat, celulite, garment issues. And here in Carrboro, NC, we sweat a lot this time of year, as many of you might have experienced at the HP Retreat. EVERYBODY was sweating. I find the heat and humidity of summer to be my biggest challenge as a hooper. I say, embrace it! -
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Fri, July 11, 2008 - 10:23 AMYeah, I'm like Baxter--I sweat pure excellence. LOL!! :)
For real though, I sweat like crazy when I hoop. I become red-faced and my hair kinda kinks up and frizzes and combined with my head band I tend to take on this crazy muppet-haired look. But I love it!!! I've developed this sort of "love it or shove it" attitude.
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Fri, July 11, 2008 - 10:55 AMI think it just doesn't show up on video. In the practice videos I've posted, I'm totally a sweaty mess in all of them! Which is why I end up taking my shirt off eventually -- I can't stand having a wet t-shirt sticking to me. Also, I have no hair to get all wet and plastered to my face. So I guess that's my secret -- half-naked + bald = looking fresh on video! -
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Fri, July 11, 2008 - 1:04 PMaha, i thought the shirtless videos were for hawtness (the non-temperature kind)! now we all know!
this is making me feel better, perhaps i need to start taping myself to see how bad/not bad it is!
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Fri, July 11, 2008 - 12:44 PMFunny thread....I wonder the same thang, too.
I know babygir, when me and HOOPDADDY, that's what I call my hoop...lol..what...don't be laughing at me...Anyway, I become exhausted and sweaty. Ok picture this, I have locks down to the waist, so I have to ball it up right on top of my head...it look so crazy yall...having tank top on and some pants...I'm sweating all over, inside of my hair sweating, armpit, arms, neck, back...everywhere. It's nothing cute about it.
Within to two minutes...IT'S A WRAP
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Sat, July 12, 2008 - 3:44 AMAs my mom told me, we don't sweat - we glow!
Like many others, I sweat like crazy when I hoop and many of my videos are from the end of my practices when I am sweaty with my hair plastered to my head. I usually turn on only half the lights in the studio (I don't feel the need to have every fluorescent light on during the day, plus turning on all the lights makes the studio get hotter) which I think, in turn, keeps you from seeing the full extent of my sweatiness. I am also not very close to the camera so you end up not seeing the full extent of my red, sweaty face.
As Bax says, it's hooper detox. Embrace the sweat. Or embrace while sweaty. Whatever you do, don't botox your armpits to stop the sweat!
I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum from you, jennaluna. I post whatever I record in practice. Granted, if I totally mess up, sometimes I'll just record a new video, but I'm at the point in my life where I have almost no shame in terms of embarrassing myself. Since I don't have video editing software and I know that I'm not perfect, I just figure eh, whatever. Maybe someone will learn what not to do from watching my mistakes! If I waited until I looked perfect and hooped perfectly, I'd never get around to posting any of my videos! ;)
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Sat, July 12, 2008 - 11:04 AMoh, trust me, I post videos where i mess up (my infamous one where i almost break my nose during it)...i just sometimes don't post one where i am not wearing something very flattering or something...
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Sat, July 12, 2008 - 11:33 AMok i have to say something again because i think my first response to Silverstar's comment may have come across as rude...
I was feeling insecure when I read your response Silverstar, because I felt like you came across all enlightened and I did not, and it made me sad...my own insecurities at work, nothing you did. So my response to it probably came across as rude and I did not mean that.
I just wanted to "defend" myself (i know you didn't attack me...again, the insecurities at work here)...so here is my defense...haha
I have only ever posted 4 videos on here...I have only ever recorded 6...I don't have a good setup yet to record many videos so when I do, it's a bit of an ordeal. So of course, my daily practice consists of me in the most random of workout clothes. So when I do decide to record something, I of course pick out an outfit (just as I do when I go to a hoopjam or class or something) so that I feel my best so that I can focus on my hooping and not on how I look or if my fat is falling out while I am doing some crazy trick. The two videos that I haven't posted were the very first one I recorded because it was just not a very good one (not in the hooping, or my outfit, but just in the way I shot it) and one that I shot last week...I didn't post that one because I decided not to wear a sports bra that day and was wearing shorts (It was 100 degrees outside)...well when I came back in to watch the video I realized that no one needed to see my bouncing boobs and short stubby legs...so yeah I didn't post it....that may be unevolved, but I would have hated posting it...I would bet that most of us post the more flattering pictures or us, not the completely unflattering ones where our eyes are closed or we have something in our teeth, or our head looks like sputnik, yes? If you say that you never do that, I would have to wonder if you are being completely honest...but that may be just me.
But I have posted videos where my chubby stomach has shown (much to my chagrin), I totally dropped the hoop several times, messed up on tricks and moves that I rarely mess up on, practically fell over from being clumsy, etc....I guess I am trying to say that I too post videos where it is real...and that no, my hooping will never be perfect, nor will I...
ok, shoot, I really hope I did not come across as snarky or defensive in this (although the fact that I am saying this now means I probably did)....
I sometimes hate online forums because it is hard to get people's intonation from writing, and I am a bad writer and it's hard for me to communicate myself well this way.
I love you ALL and am grateful for these kinds of threads...oh and Jennifer, I didn't mean to hijack your thread either...have a fabulous day hoopers!
jen(naluna)
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Sat, July 12, 2008 - 12:10 PMI wouldn't post something that didn't make me feel good about myself in some way. I think that's human nature. If what I perceive as negative outweighs positive, I don't post it. I wouldn't post a video where I'm not wearing a bra for example. That would make me too self-conscious. I rarely show my belly either. Nothing wrong with self-editing. Humans do it all the time.
I didn't percieve your response as snarky. You may have felt you had that energy when you wrote it but I think you did a pretty good job of using neutral language and claiming your feelings and I found your apology and explanation quite eloquent also. I also find your response refreshingly self-aware and brave and honest.
About the red face stuff, I have found a foundation that covers up blemishes, red face and even my hives. It covers everything. You can put it on your lips and make them disappear. Your eyebrows or facial hair also. You can render your face a blank canvas and create any look you like, which makes it ideal for theater performances too. I've never used anything like it. It's from Dermablend Corrective Cosmetics and it's their Smooth Indulgence foundation. It costs about $25 a tube but a little goes a very long way and a tube lasts a long time. It also feels good on my skin. And I have very sensitive skin! It's made by dermatologists to cover serious facial blemishes like birthmarks and burns and tattoos and I mean to tell you, this stuff covers! They sell a concealer too but I can't imagine why you would need one. Here's a link to some examples of this stuff: www.dermablend.com/index.aspx
I know when I use this stuff, if I do get red face, no one knows. It is completely concealed. Hives too. It also doesn't run even if you sweat on it from your brow or hair. It's wonderful stuff. I buy it directly from their site, which is down for maintenance but you can buy it from other places too if you google it. Here's one: www.drugsdepot.com/viewitem...BEIGE_1OZ -
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Sat, July 12, 2008 - 12:36 PMwow, dermablend is still around??? i had their concealer when i was just out of college (quite a while ago), and wow did it work. i have to find a store nearby and find the foundation, it sounds perfect. thanks so much!!!
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Sat, July 12, 2008 - 12:41 PMno hijacking at all, it's an important conversation to have! if it makes you feel any better, i have never taped myself hooping. ever. and i'm not sure i'll ever get the courage to share one someday with everyone, even though this tribe is amazingly lovely and supportive. but hell, that's me and my insecurities. even though i've been a performer all my life, i've never liked watching myself on camera... so taping myself hooping would immediately put me into self-conscious mode. i can hoop in front of a massive group of people with no problem, but goodness forbid i preserve it on tape and post it. hee! -
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Sat, July 12, 2008 - 12:46 PMI'm with you there.. I also don't care for seeing myself, I'm still insecure with my weight .
And even when I was skinny way back when I even hated pictures being taken.
I think we're all self conscious to certain degrees and judge ourselves too harshly and see things others do not.
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Sat, July 12, 2008 - 12:49 PMEven if you don't share it, videotaping can be an enormously helpful training tool. I am learning a lot from seeing myself hoop. One thing I have just realized is the power of deliberate repetition. Doing a thing over and over, especially for a four-count, instead of flowing straight from one movement into a different movement. It gives the viewer time to really take in individual moves and it's a great way to accentuate music. I wouldn't have had that realization if I had not seen tapes of me hooping. So you might find it helpful even if you never choose to share it. You might also look at it much later and realize it looks better than you thought on first blush. Who knows you might even decide to share it after all. And, if not, that's okay too. You can still learn from it.
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Sat, July 12, 2008 - 12:56 PMit's funny, I have been a performer all my life too...(dancer and actress), and I hate watching myself as well...but for some reason, I still cannot get the guts to really hoop in front of people yet...which is ridiculous since I totally want to perform at clubs and shows and stuff...haha. Hoopjams and classes are as far as it goes right now...I guess you gotta start somewhere, right?
I never even though of wearing dermablend for my red skin...I have used that stuff to cover my tattoos, but i hate wearing it on my face...i hate wearing any foundation on my face unless absolutely necessary...my skin is so dry and sensitive that I break out and makeup looks so crinkly on me...
but man, my red sweaty face is pretty annoying...that's what you get when you are Scottish, Dutch, and English! I turn red if someone looks at me weird...i blush at everything and am instantly red while hooping. Man, at the Santa Cruz Hoop Path retreat it was like 95 degrees and the dance studio we were in was sweltering...I was red and sweaty before we even started, let alone after 3 hours of hooping...and I kept looking around amazed at everyone else who was just a little shiny...it's true, Baxter doesn't sweat, he glistens!
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Sat, July 12, 2008 - 2:26 PMjennaluna, I don't think you came across as vain OR snarky! I didn't mean to come across as enlightened either. All I meant was that I do so many stupid things without the hoop on a regular basis (tripping on curbs, walking into doors, and other loud painful obvious klutzy things that friends and strangers witness) that my embarrassment threshold has changed a lot from the days when I would feel really self conscious about stubbing my toe in public (and I am not exaggerating - there was a crack in the sidewalk at my high school that EVERYONE tripped over at least once a week and every time I did it, I felt like I was naked and everyone was staring at me).
There is a huge difference between being proud of what I'm putting online and not minding if it's not entirely, ahem, flattering. When I started hooping, I didn't have a video camera so whenever I wanted to make a video, I would borrow the work camera. Of course I wanted my hooping to LOOK awesome because it FELT awesome. I had never seen myself hoop before, and when I looked at the videos I made, I was slightly horrified by how awkward and clumsy I looked (especially in comparison to how lovely and graceful I felt). My mom, sisters, and long distance friends really wanted to see this new fangled hobby I kept telling them about, so I sucked it up and just sent my awful videos because i had to bring the camera back to work the next day. It was necessity rather than enlightenment that made that decision for me since I couldn't afford to buy a camera at the time and I knew I couldn't keep my work camera indefinitely.
I learned SO much from recording myself though, and when I eventually bought a new digital camera about six months later, I was excited that it had a video function too. Not only did I see what my little sister arm was doing (or, more to the point, NOT doing) but I saw all kinds of things like how I tended to stand completely still. I also learned that I had been doing a trick totally wrong and thinking that I'd been doing it right for about six months. I know that I learned how to do shoulder duckouts correctly, but somewhere between the time I learned them and the time I bought a camera, I had been cheating my arm up every single time. I had to retrain my body to keep my arm down. Seeing that huge mistake made me realize how valuable the video camera can be, especially for someone like me who was only hooping at the park with no mirror, no feedback, etc. For me, that value helped wipe out some of my reluctance to see what my hooping really looked like.
Now that I've been recording myself for so long, it's gotten easier to post videos where I mess up. Something that Xenya said on the Hoop Path DVD trailer sticks with me - it was something about how Bax said if you don't drop the hoop, you aren't learning anything new. For me, dropping the hoop and messing up are part of the process, so I don't mind if that shows up in my videos. I don't think that means I'm more enlightened than anyone though - just lazy and unable to edit my videos! ; ) Caroleeena mentioned the power of repetition in hooping, but I think it also applies to what we are talking about in terms of posting videos. The more often I did it, the less self-conscious I got about the details (my hair, my outfit, my hooping itself).
I TOTALLY understand what you said about posting videos where you don't like your outfit or your stomach is showing. One of the things I frequently think when I watch my videos is damn it, why wasn't I sucking in my stomach? Every time I turn to the side and see my belly, there it is. I keep turning in a circle, and there it is AGAIN, still not sucked in. Whenever I do anything where I bend over (like a duckout), I cringe at my belly fat hanging over, even if it's just for a second. I also look back on some of my videos and can't understand why I ever wore that pair of pants or why I didn't just pin my hair up. Hee, I feel like I'm on What Not to Wear, but without the $5000 to spend on new clothes.
We all self edit to a degree. It just depends on where it starts and ends for each individual. Some people won't make/post videos unless they have on an outfit they like, other people won't post something with a mistake. It's all about what you feel comfortable with sharing, and there is nothing wrong with not wanting to post a video for whatever reason. I would never post a video of myself doing angled shoulder hooping naked with my boobs, stomach, ass, and thighs jiggling everywhere! Okay, I would actually draw the line WAY before then, but you see what I mean! We each have a different place where we feel comfortable, and one person's place does not inform anyone else's. Do what you feel comfortable with, but don't be surprised if what feels comfortable changes!
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Sat, July 12, 2008 - 3:55 PMI completely agree with everything you just said Silverstar...I have videotaped my entire practice before and was really glad so that I could see how my body was moving with the hoop and what tricks I was doing right, wrong, etc. Isn't it funny how awesome and graceful you can *feel* doing something, yet when you see it, you are amazed at how differently it actually looks. That's whay I am trying to find the balance of videotaping myself at times to get a better idea of how I am doing, but not too much so I am completely discouraged by the reality of how I look sometimes when I am hooping...haha
That's funny, that same thing stuck in my mind from the Hoop Path trailer...it's so true what Baxter says...if you aren't dropping the hoop you aren't trying new things, etc....it's such a perfect metaphor for life too.
I don't think you're post came across as judgmental or rude, I just am a sensitive little delicate flower (as my boyfriend would put it) and need to get over myself...haha
this was actually a really good thing for me today as it's gotten me thinking about my own insecurities and vanity...
plus I think I need to tape myself more and post more videos so I can get more used to it (like you were saying Silverstar)...I guess I just worry about boring you guys since I often don't have new tricks or anything to show, you know?
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Sat, July 12, 2008 - 4:23 PMI like all videos. To me, it's not even about learning new techniques, though I do like that. It's about connecting with my community, getting to know my hoop brothers and sisters and watching them on their journeys. I am critical of no one but myself ... and I'm working on that. When I see a video of a hooper, I think, "I hope I get to meet them and hoop with them one day." That's the main thing I get from seeing other people's videos these days. And it's why I especially love the ones where I can see people's faces. -
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Sat, July 12, 2008 - 7:30 PMaawww I do that too....I love that I could possibly meet up with all the hoopers I see on videos someday....i heart the internets!
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Mon, July 14, 2008 - 12:01 PMJust wanted to chime in with how much I appreciate the way this thread has gone. I, too, have struggled with some body issues but have taken on a "f**k it" kind of attitude. So I don't have zero-percent body fat and perfectly chiseled pecs, whatever. I look like a normal person, and not like someone whose main activity is shaping his body. In mainstream culture the pressure on men to look a certain way, while certainly present, isn't as strong as it is for women, but in gay culture it's a totally different story. In that world, I'm "fat" (but not enough to be a "bear" LOL) and in order to achieve the body that's considered ideal I'd have to make working out my primary activity outside of work. I'd rather hoop and besides my body type is what it is and that's nothing to be ashamed of. I have posted videos where my spare tire and mistakes are quite evident and was able to do so when I owned the fact that it's all about the hooping.
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Re: okay, i just HAVE to ask it...
Mon, July 14, 2008 - 12:02 PMsorry about posting that twice. it looked like it didn't go through. can somebody delete that comment? moderator? -
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Re: okay, i just HAVE to ask it...
Mon, July 14, 2008 - 12:04 PMoh never mind. i'm a dork. a big big dork.
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Re: okay, i just HAVE to ask it...
Sat, July 12, 2008 - 12:43 PMto echo what beth said earlier, i'm guessing that the camera does a wonderful job of hiding the sweat and the red faces... because in your videos i've always seen you to be adorable and perky and distinctly non-sweaty-looking. :) if you of all people can get messy, then i feel hope. :)
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